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this film I saw the Rhema name actually

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on UPN Network when I was I believe 13

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years old and it scared the living crap

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out of me I mean heck really copy into

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other markets of the abduction phenomena

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this sub-genre of studies that a lot of

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us researchers looking to and after

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seeing this film I was convinced that it

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was real that the McPherson tape is real

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that's what we're gonna be talking a lot

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about today so without further ado I

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want to bring out the director and

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creator of the McPherson take mr. Dean

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Alioto

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awesome guys thanks for joining us today

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mr. Irvin awesome of course so yeah

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we're gonna be talking about the process

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of filmmaking today specifically

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found-footage this is a type of film

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that isn't always easy I can only

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imagine it's it's it's it's a genre that

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I think is under escalating along in the

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film industry of how hard and

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challenging it actually is to make a

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found-footage mill and snow Dean and I

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kind of want to before we get into the

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make your certificates know the process

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of being one of the first people to come

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up

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this idea of a handheld camera I've

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found footage and from the perspective

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of the person filming today let me just

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say first and foremost I'm a filmmaker I

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kind of came into the genre as a

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secondary thing I like the way that life

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works out it turns out everything that's

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defined you know there's a plan a scheme

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going on that you're not always aware of

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and so as a kid I was always interested

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you have thoughts and opinions I will

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tell you that my father's can I have a

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lot of energy it was classified as

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hyperactive which we later discovered

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was tied with artificial flavors and

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colors her kid it's like speed some kids

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so is that way for me and my father my

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father's doctor who gave me Ritalin I

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was on ten milligrams of red light which

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is the normal dosage and that wasn't

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enough so they doubled it it's not on 20

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milligrams still wasn't enough 30

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milligrams of Ritalin and so the

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affected hands during the day I was

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literally the walking dead and then at

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night it wears off what happens then

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as you are about them and so then it

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becomes like when you're in your 20s or

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whatever you need to do her limits like

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this energy thing so light would stay up

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and I would watch the Jerry Lewis

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telethon all the way through I would

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watch the Outer Limits

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I would watch any kind of crazy sci-fi

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stuff like that my hands on and on this

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is in Sacramento and I remember looking

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out the window and seeing all the stars

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and I kept being drawn to them

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I know I was because my parents force

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that I was separated from my older and

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younger brother or mother the Bay Area

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but it kind of made me look beyond my

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own life at the time everyone knew that

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my mother comes later she got me on

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seeing all the final diet which was

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right there removing all artificial

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flavors of colors and then I was like

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and everything just kind of stuck with

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me the UFOs and aliens in search of

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really affected me Loch Ness monster

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always into that and then when I decided

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that I want to become a filmmaker it was

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after I saw et that film for me like

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Close Encounters was this spiritual

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experience

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which transcended the 1950s for a sci-fi

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version of aliens and stuff it was this

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community spoke to me because my parents

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were divorced I was the best elemental

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child and I was dreaming of alien so it

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was kinda like my story in the way so I

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came home and told my mom I know what I

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don't know you film in there that's it

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and so from there I put myself on this

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journey and then right before I turned

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25 Canada Senate because when they're 25

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that's where all of my idols have made

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their first feature film before Steven

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Spielberg works for Suzy Orson Welles or

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Mason's a king the greatest movie of all

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time

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and the clock was running down by way of

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the self-imposed Edelman and I thought I

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need to make my film and I want to but

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if I don't want to be a producer and he

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said let's produce doing with a great

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how much in anything he says

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I got sixty five hundred bucks so I said

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okay I could get a home video for that

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dude I don't know what to do with it and

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the next day I came across a book called

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communion and I read the book and it

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scared the crap out of me and I've been

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a Stephen King fan and Pet Sematary was

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my most terrifying apartment rent and

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this like trumped at all I ended up

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being inspired by that something that

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they are it was flying the next day to

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Los Angeles to pitch this project and I

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looked at the window I thought what if

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this was the last time I was seen and

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then it hit what if I do a home video

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but I do it were something hopefully

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interesting happens and then I came up

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with me

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genesis an idea which was it's going to

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be a home video of a family up in the

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hills celebrated with the five year old

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girl's birthday party and I'll shoot it

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through the perspective of a six year

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old kid who just got his first video

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camera

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and this is 1989 it'll take place in

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1983 so this tape has been around for a

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while

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and I went to heaven and hit on that the

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producer said yeah let's go for it and

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fantastic for this as well is what

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happened with this film after in it it

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came out there was a really interesting

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story about how it sort of made its way

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into the UFO community but before we get

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to that you got to tell us the story

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about what happened after you completed

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the film you know you found a

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distributor that was going to put this

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thing up and then tell us we just filmed

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one night we use other professional

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actors I played the kid because I was

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cheating and I was kind of headset on

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I'm cueing all the Hades as we're going

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along so i cue the aliens and so we did

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it was kind of this thing together we

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made it and then we went up to set and

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we actually sold to the last distributor

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everyone else looked at us one gunman

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through his car keys at me and said you

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know kid don't come back do you actually

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have a real movie don't show this crap

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waste my time again this is before which

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of those no reference so got it was a

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distribution deal so we thought that we

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indeed we want and that a month later I

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call them I say hey how many units every

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so I said oh okay you didn't hear the

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distribution company parted the ground

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so we lost our master and Oliver and so

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like ways well happens so moved on